Oct 13th 2010 12:30PM reading through all the comments has really have got my dander up!!!! first of all when you book a Queens Grill cabin you are not in a small tiny cabin as most of us blue collar folk travel in, you are in a top line suite some are 2 rooms some are 3 rooms and even more rooms, depending on $$ spent so these 2 were not confined to 160 squre foot cabin, they were in a suite, had room service so they did not starve, and by her own ommission they did sneak out one or twice!! so they were not handcuff to the radiator, in time the truth will no doubt come out, she got her 15 min. of FAME on the news, as to all of us she was a nobody till she started spouting the F-word on national tv, so Ms Sher crawl back under the rock you came from and start planning your next cruise with the next unlucky line that gets your business!!!!! BON VOYAGE!!!!
Oct 8th 2010 5:31PM I loved the part where she said the disolute area of quebec shows you shes a lunitic here is the quebec website see how diselute it is..... lmao.... go visit quebec on line
they can throw me off the ship there anytime AND I AM SURE THE PEOPLE OF QUEBEC do not feel they live in the wild and wilderness, boy talk about over kill spare me look up the population lady its not polar bears and wild animals, GET a GRIP
Oct 8th 2010 2:59PM OH>>>>>> let me correct that that unpolitical phase HOLIDAY Party
Oct 8th 2010 2:56PM I know how you can find out about this lady and her companion invite them to your Company Christmas party with an open bar or family gathering and see what transpires after a few drinks!!!
Oct 7th 2010 8:26AM If I am not mistaken when you book such a luxury cabin your liquer is included in the price of your fare its not like when you and I go on a cruise we have to pay through the nose, when you have the top of the lines cabins they usually include liquer in your personal wet bar, if any one has has cruised the top of the lines suites feel free to imput or dispute
Oct 6th 2010 6:22PM #57 Today, 04:18 PM
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she played the race card when she said she was jewish and said someone made the slur at her, the man was not even at her table she yelled across the room at him. and not only that she just had to mention that the owner of Cunard was Jewish, as if that was going to help her or WARRENT HER RANTING BEHAVIOR, was ok, spare me you are drunk, loud, disrepectful, of workers and other passengers, and her poor companion he is probably deaf and did not even know what happen or what was going on other then what she told him. I managed a bar for 7 years and believe me there are nasty drunks out there who turn into monsters when they drink you have no idea how many times I 86 ed the elderly from our business due to beer muscles and fowl mouths. I am 64 years of age and I have some experience in the world of alcohol and drinkers, some folks should just not drink. and the capt. knew this hence the alcohol was taken away, poor sir edward he had to listen to her rant while he was sober, I think Cunard should give him his half back for putting up with the wench!!!
also I want to be put under house arrest in the suite they were in. I would have never wanted to leave it. I went and looked at the cabins out of curiosty to compare with my meager little balcony cabin I will be in at the end of the month on my cruise it could have been worse they could have put her and him in an inside cabin down with us poor folks
Oct 6th 2010 4:53PM
from further reports they were not seated at same table she yelled across from her table to his table after hearing him complain about to many jews on ship, it was not even aimed at her she decided to act on the verble comment and it was the last straw as there were other things that lead up to this incendent, does not matter whether it was a slur she should have minded her own business and finished her dinner and moved on, and asked to be moved to another area in dining room and further more when you are on a $20,000 cruise you are not in a 150 sq. foot cabin you are in a elaborate suite and I am sure she booked the very best that sir edward could afford, so that 6 days she still had acess to all room service and even snuck out once or twice by her own admission, to bad she had to go through alcohol withdrawel, I can just imagine what poor sir edward had to listen tothose 6 days, he should be refunded his part of the money for putting up with her crap!!!
October 5, 2010
Manhattan Couple Kicked Off Queen Mary 2
(6:30 a.m. EDT) -- What does it take to get kicked off a cruise ship? And if this does happen, what are your rights?
A wealthy Manhattan couple found out the hard way recently following a argument during a black-tie dinner on Cunard's Queen Mary 2.
As has been widely reported in the media this week, Sir Frederick Evans, 91, a British citizen, and his American wife, Broadway show producer Gloria Sher, 82, had booked back-to-back cruises to the East Coast, across the Atlantic and on to the Mediterranean, but were asked by Commodore Bernard Warner to leave the ship just days into the voyage. Why? A spat with another passenger during a formal night seems to have been the final straw.
According to a report in the New York Post, an unnamed passenger said within earshot of Sher, who is Jewish, "There are too many Jews on board." Sher replied with an expletive before adding, "How dare you insult me!" She reportedly then stormed off to her suite.
The following morning, Commodore Warner visited the couple in their suite and said that as they had insulted another passenger, they would have to leave the ship in Quebec.
Because of their advanced age, the Evans-Shers were allowed to stay onboard until arrival in New York several days later, but on the condition that they remain in their suite, without access to alcohol.
It may seem harsh, particularly since Sher appears to have been a victim of anti-Semitism. But, as ever, there are two sides to the story, and Cunard executives clearly feel pretty strongly about the incident. A statement from the company said:
“Although we generally don't comment on the specific circumstances of our guests, in this instance it was determined that the guests' behaviour was not in compliance with the Passage Contract.
"During the course of the voyage, it was observed and reported that Sir Evans and Lady Sher engaged in multiple incidences of disrespectful and disruptive behaviour towards crew members and other guests. Therefore, the Captain exercised his duty to enforce the terms and conditions of the Passage Contract which are designed to protect the safety and well being of all of our guests, and thus Cunard fully supported his actions in dealing with the situation."
Although nobody is condoning the other passenger's remarks, sympathy for the booted couple is in short supply on the Cruise Critic message boards.
Member PB82, from New Jersey, was on the cruise, comments: "My wife and I heard her obscene rant in the Queens Grill Lounge about not being allowed to play the piano. Based on that alone we support the Commodore's decision."
Meanwhile, member pnhmrk from York comments: "I've just heard from a friend who was on the ship. To summarise his post the woman had been a very disruptive influence on the ship ever since sailing. I believe that she had been warned repeatedly before she was confined to her cabin!"
Sure enough, Point 4 of Cunard's Passage Contract states that the line can "...confine you in a stateroom if, in the sole opinion of carrier, the captain or any doctor... your presence might be detrimental to your health, comfort or safety or that of any other person, or in the judgement of the Captain is advisable for any reason."
All cruise lines issue these passenger contracts and are quick to enforce them if necessary. In August, 10 passengers were asked to leave Carnival Dream in Mexico following a brawl in the ship's nightclub.
Evans and Sher, meanwhile, have been refunded a mere $839 (£530) and have been forced to cancel three future cruises with Cunard.
What's your opinion? How much "disrespectful and disruptive behaviour" is too much on a ship? Are the pair victims? Or would walking the plank have been too good for them?
Oct 6th 2010 1:36PM does the name Leona Helmsley ring a bell sounds to me she is following in those footsteps it seems they had 7 day of her drunken rantings that was probably why they took the alcohol away also do not know if you missed what she quoted to the post they did sneak out of thier cabin once or twice so they were not chained to the beds as one posrer said money can not buy you CLASS
Aug 25th 2010 3:39PM my neighbors dog howls better then that, dont give up your day job lady!!
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